Note : This is only my point of view…
You may not agree with me, and express ur own beliefs…
God is a figment of man’s imagination.
WeYOU created him inouryour undeniable lust for security and a need for purpose. God doesn’t exist. Until evidence is given to support His existence, no rational thinker can put faith into religion.
Its not a secret, I simply never believed in god…
Everybody in my surroundings know well how much i care for him, to such extent that during any hindou fast, i have either Chicken or lol “Mo saucisse et mo disefs” (copyright @mong colleagues)
I found no reason y i should follow those millions of ppl praying to those imaginary ‘creatures’ but nevertheless, i do respect their way of life…
One simple example, i quoted this today @ work….
This Sunday, i read in 5-Plus that a few hindou devotees owned their life to the “Kawal” they built and were carrying back to their village after their pilgrimmage to Grand Bassin. Some driver has unfortunately lost control of his car, hit with 3 of them and struck with the Kawal.
Those pilgrims feel that without their “kawal”, they would have probably lost their life…aaarrrrrrrr!
If instead of wandering on the street, on their way to pray to ‘Him’, they would probably be at home and none of them would have been hurt in anyway, nor would have his leg plastered! lol !
The only times i go to Grand Bassin, is when we go out for Plucking Goyaves de Chine or for a picnic somewhere, with lots of food in the car 
I think its the 4th year i havent gone there to “pray”…
Quite often, i like to question people:
To croire dan bondier?
While some of them would answer by a firm “OUI”, a few of them would reply back “wi imper imper”
How can u believe in something “imper”?
Its either a YES or a NO!
One simple reason y (some) ppl (especially youngsters) believe foolishly in God is because since their birth, they have been always been taught that ‘the one above’ will always here to help you in ur bad times, you must pray constantly, blabla….its because the way you were brought up.
just ask ur parents, they will continue the paragraph…
Not believing in god, keeps me open minded, enables me to understand other people in my surroundings, without first asking myself “hey malbar sa, non lascar, or even nation sa!”
Not believing in god gives me the liberty to believe in other things, use that time in a more constructive way doing things i like, spending time with PEOPLE WHO REALLY EXIST, instead of believing that one day, my wishes will be realized, probability -0.01 …
And what if its purely a coincidence that ur wish has been fulfilled?
Have u ever thought of that?
As said someone : “L’espoir fait vivre les imbeciles….”
I have stopped counting the number of time i get clashes at home, just because i dont follow the beliefs of my parents or my surroundings, or because i eat things which a hindou is not supposed to eat….
Hey u indian guy/gurl, have u ever tried Porc/Beef?
No? then you are foolish (for me)
& what if one day u have nothing to eat, except some delicious miam miam, porc/beef meat?
God’ if ever u r reading my blog and dont like wat am saying here,
you, who possess all those powers,
ban my blog,
make my server hard disk crash,
Oh god, u can do everything, ya, really everything!& y dont u leave a comment btw? LOL
March 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
great topic! I don’t believe in what people call God. The only think I believe in is that religion is the greatest arnaque de l’histoire. Et dimune p continier perpetrate it till date! :S this shows how some are really… hmm.. imbecile.
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March 10th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
lotte zour la mem ti pe coz sa ek ene camarad..
aufait imP couma toi.. IMP
lol religion ena bannes benefits.. mais bizin connE ki pou fer.. choisir bannes zafer ki nice..
like fasting lol.. its helps in cleansing .. check lor google bannes effects ki sa capve ena…
also praying is a form of meditation.. sa ousi ena so bannes bien faits.. mais problems people zordi zour pas conne fer la priere.. so zotte pas pe benefit aucun bannes bien faits la..
enfin. to cpave pas pratik aucun religion mais still perform some sort of meditation et cleansing
religion is man made something pou fer dimoune peur.. to stick a bannes method ki sippoZe bon pou nou mem.. mais problem with time sa ine prend ene tournure ki pena aucun valeur aster..
enfin.. si ena pou coz lor la.. ene tas capve ecrire.. mais mo atan dimoune flamme moi.. lerla mo reply lo
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March 10th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Interesting blog entry.
Being religious and being good are two very different things. Personally, I prefer being a good but not religious person than the reverse.
Opinions may differ though
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March 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I’ve read that article in 5-plus about the “kawal” who kinda saved those people’s lives. I couldn’t help but smile while reading the article because it was somewhat ridiculous. The “kawal” was just there. Nothing more nothing less.
Those people just needed an excuse to perhaps convince themselves that god actually saved them through the kawal. o.O
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March 11th, 2008 at 1:08 am
“show” me your pain, show me your love?
Pain, love are feelings, true ya? do you need to prove it? no, ya?
“God” was also “a feeling” that needs to be felt.
Just church & you will find god everywhere in zis universe
Now I have a question for you. If there is no God, where did we come from? You see people believe in the big bang,
where two gases came together and bang here I am writing you on a computer. To me that takes much more faith
than believing in God. Every time I walk outside and see nature I KNOW that it could
not have happened by chance. They teach that evolution happened, but they can’t prove it!
There are predictions in it that were made over 2,000 years ago that are just now coming true.
Many many things have been proved correct.
I think there’s a reality between what we can see with our eyes
and experience with our senses. There’s ultimately something mysterious
and un-materialistic about the world.
Something large, eternal and unknowable.”
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March 11th, 2008 at 1:21 am
god, religion… all man-made stuffs created to divide people…
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March 11th, 2008 at 7:25 am
wow! this post makes me realise that am not that alone !!!
to others except morinn:
Morinn also blogged on this a few days ago : http://morinn.blogspot.com/2008/03/you-worship-your-imagination.html
to vicks:
I perfectly agree with you, religion has become something just to show off…
par example to ena pu passe dibeurre r ene fam, nek montrer li to mari content bondier, lol, perhaps it will work
take this as a tip vicks
to Avinash Meetoo:
Thats nice, Good & Religious does not always go together… take as example vilains in films lol
to Angele:
People just say anything, idiots!
to Divana:
Where do u come from???
Well, if u dont know, its something purely scientific… if u want a demo, just ask ur parents where u came from….
no no, god didnt sit there and assist ur parents so that u can come into this world. its a proof of the love between ur parents, do you want more explanation how u were born? the 15mins work and the 9months pregnancy?
Same thing for gases, just google a bit before writing nonsense…anyway, thnks for ur view of point lol (copyright yashvin)
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March 11th, 2008 at 9:10 am
No wonder the world is going to the dogs…
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March 11th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
heeya yash..No..i don’t believe in god and nor do i believe in religion.Am above all a citizen of mauritius! ! !
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March 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
LMAO..now i read the comments.
@divana=>ROFL..do you really think that you’re here because god created you?ROFL..No comments..I can’t stop laughing.
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March 11th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
dear yash
Where do u come from??? mmmm… un autre sujet de débat lol?!!!
1) it’s before, not during & not afterwards y understand boy?!!!lol
2)je serais très curieuse de demander “à mes parents” de me faire une petite demo” c plus amisant hehehe mais je te laisse ce plaisir…
I guess easily that y don’t make the difference between wat y feel and wat y act, NO?
Dc je te parle de sentiments com ceux ke tu éprouve pr ta copine par exemple: you don’t need to prove it coz it’s something inside of y.don’t need to explain…however y believe in.
3)D’autre part il y a bcp de choses ke la science elle même ne serait expliker, des scientifiques eux même ont reconnu. Des choses ki existaient déjà depuis des siècles ds des livres. (pourtant l’homme n’était pas sensé être aussi intelligent ke ça vu k’il a dû évoluer ds le temps!! sinon guess, il seré deja sur l’autre galaxie ce zako loooooooool)
church & y will find…
Pi k’est ce ke la science si ce n’est que des théories et non des certitudes la preuve on a tjrs cru ke l’homme est issu du singe: today zey say it’s false mais pendant des années tt le monde était certain ke c le cas sauf le zako bien sûr mdr..
Pr finir: truth or dare? crois tu aux esprits? comment tu les explik? la science dirait ke c l ‘imagination de l’homme’…? si c le cas alors tu n aurais pas du mal a aller chercher ta preuve au milieu des tombes la nuit : just church & find it in G.O.O.G.L.E comment les invoquer: mais laisse moi te prévenir vas y tt seul et réflechi a 2 fois avant parce k’il y a tjrs un prix a payer: ask those who made experience before… y will be surprised
Do you believe zat all those people ki viennent des 4 coins de la planète, ki ne se connaissent pas du tt; qui ne se sont jamais vu, jamais parlé ont 200% de chance de voir les même les choses, de ressentir les mêmes choses? hasard? waw un hasard ke certain alors: ce n es plus un hasard. et pourtant internet n’existait pas heheheee… a moins ke ce zako de l’homme l’a caché ds ces grottes k on n’a pas découvert encore un autre sujet de débat hehehe…
Do you know: la poule ou l’oeuf, l’oeuf ou la poule? hors sujet n’est ce pas?!!!
mais ça reste mon point de vu & zis is Divana copyright ;))
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March 11th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
to divana:
i think u have used the write pharse:
Tu es HORS SUJET! lol !
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March 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I believe that God and religion are two completely different things.
I never believed in all the rituals my parents and family went through everyday of their life when i was a kid. I was always angry at hem for forcing me to follow them.
Then there was one moment in my life where i was all alone in this world. I found out that no matter what, neither friends nor family would be there for me, yet i felt a presence near. Call me stupid or ignorant, i don’t care, but i felt like someone/something was telling me to keep on going, that one day iw ill certainly find what am looking for. It was faith. In what, i did not know, but it certainly was not because of my family, friends nor anyone else.
Later, i got into some deep trouble. Gain, people around were of no help, instead they were all pulling me down. Then i trned myself to what people call God. I asked him what he hell!? You are supposed to be here to protect us etc.. then why let us suffer? I asked God to prove me wrong. Prove me that he is there, somewhere, guarding on us.
I’ve had many difficulties in my life and i can tell you that whatever happens, happens for a reason.. Good or bad, i don’t know.
I personnaly believe there is one divine energy guiding us when we need it.
Now, for those who blindly believe what they are told, am sorry for them. You should not never let anyone tell you how to live your life. Of course in the beginning your parents should be here to help you but NEVER let anyone force you into anything under the pretext of ’sacred law, God’s will, etc…’
All those politicians who use religion to divide people are totally gross! Shame on them! And worse are those who believe them.
ANYWAY! most of all, i believe in love. there is no power greater than love and if you look closely, love is God and God is love…pure love, not lust…
A mother’s love for her child, a sister/brother love, the love for your life partner…
Just imagine, for one second that the person you love the most is dead and that you will never be able to hug him/her. Never be able to see him/her smile, hug you, simply be by your side…
To me, love teaches a lot, so love is the only religion, and God it’s master.
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March 11th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Mo pan cmprnd ceki lin write since I dont understand french
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March 11th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I don’t believe in god nor do I believe in religion.And yeah.some people only have time to pray on the eve of their exams.Those people are just stupid and idiots who think that god will either do their papers or will correct their papers.I know some people who will go to pray one day before results..
bondieux faire mwa gagne bon resulta..! ! !
LMAO..NO comments..
Just a quote from some one
“Its better to let people think that you’re stupid rather than open your mouth and prove it”
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March 11th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
la reponse est dans ta kestion
sinon tu aurais pas besoin de la poser n’est ce pas?
kelk part tu y crois aussi..hehehe
cheers
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March 11th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
guet sa piti la…ti p alle fer musician dan ban bhajan kirtan avant sa..lol, kine arriv twa aster?:D Lespri p vine demon r guet sa ban fim 15mins la sa..haha
No, seriously, u got a pt. If god really existed, why would this world be such a shit place to live?
1 zafer mari komik enkor, ban zelev 6eme 1 laner pa apran, mais zis avant exams, banla alle prier god pu zot pass..lol…simply ridiculous
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March 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Monotheists hold that there is only one god, and may claim that the one true god is worshiped in different religions under different names. The view that all theists actually worship the same god, whether they know it or not.
Latinate’s Deus, Greek’s ????, Slavic’s Bog, Sanskrit’s Ishvara, Arabic’s Allah, Hebrew’s El or Judaism’ Yahweh.
Yashvin, coming back to the topic. I am a non religious who believes in thy self. So I’ll add my view to the above list.
Ashvin’s Me
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March 11th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
well, debatable post!
Personally, god does not exist. Its all human beliefs. I have noticed that whenever something goes wrong in ppl’s life they just cling to their favourite god. In this case, i would say these ppl do not believe in themselves.
Ups and downs exist in life and these happen due to lack of confidence, not being cautious and being irrational.
The great believers of god are sometimes themselves the most corrupt and sinful persons…no one is perfect..
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March 11th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
well said cybergal..**clapping of hands**
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March 11th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
—-****If god really existed, why would this world be such a shit place to live?***—-
coz there is a zako called a “MAN” who make this word such a shit place to live…loooooooooool zat’s all ….
Même un croyant n’est pas assez stupide pour croire ke dieu est là pour exaucer tes prières:
you really think zat god is here to fulfill your prayers?!!! absolutly NO
why you have a brain?
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March 11th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
lol
to pe gagne menace longanist tou
bon bannes seki dire everything happen for a reason?
whats the reason behind being raped?? (maybe tifi la ine fer mechant thats y she is being punished??)
alle be whats the reason behind child abuse??( pas dire moi ti zenfant la ousi ine fer gros peC??
si ti vraimem ena ene puissance ki pe control tou.. kifer dimoune pas pe gagne manZE dan ena pays?? innocents pe mort dan bannes laguerre,ki zotte pas ine mem coummenC?
si vraimem ena some1 ki control tou? kifer li pas arete sa?
anyway chacun so banens beliefs mais ceki mo dire envi dire c ki si zotte pas content fer ene zafer ou si zotte pe practik ene zafer ki zotte pas vraiment croire.. then ki serti!!
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March 11th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
bein finalement, apres kelkes comments de la part des amis du blog, on voit bien ke Divana est quelqu’un/une de tres religieuse et croit fermement que le dieu tout puissant existe…
euh, peut etre tu peux nous montrer sa cachette alors, suis sur qu’il s’est presente souvent devant toi lol!
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March 12th, 2008 at 12:33 am
I like this discussion… & appreciate yur opinions.. i personally choose not to believe any religion / theory and fortunately i was never forced, even dow my parents are from rooted hindu family. =]
Buh heres mi sai on this topic:
“Rather than trying vainly to form connections with the uncaring blue sky, we can find a better kind of religion down here on earth. What we need is a religion of humanity - a secular belief system that does unite us in meaningful ways, by teaching the astounding truth that we are all part of the same biological and mental tribe”.
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March 12th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Ohh btw mo manger beef & bacon
& i still remember the 1st tym my extreme hindu famili goh to kno bou it…
Grand Chacha (frm triolet ncore) was lyh:
“:o Aryoo pas bon manger sa”
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March 12th, 2008 at 12:54 am
je declare la chasse aux dieu est ouvert! !
{I know that my french sucks a lot}
Yash, lets team up and find HIM.
just something offtopic..hope you won’t mind that Yash..I don’t believe in loup garou.So stop being idiots in trying to make me believe in that.I don’t believe in such things.and to think that people saw loup garou walking in ********..you guys know which place is it.Just get off people.its all your imagination playing pranks on you.
“coz there is a zako called a “MAN” who make this word such a shit place to live…loooooooooool zat’s all ….”
Do lnclude you too in that since you form part of MAN{It refers to both male and female human beings!}
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March 12th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Hey Yashvin, mo daccord ki GOD capav pas real mais laisse mo dire toie en zafer, mo pas ti croire dans Dieu avant moi…
mais mo finne trouve miracles dans mo lavie. Monne deja passe dans banne situations kot mo ti croire fini bezer, pena sapper… mais tout les temps ene miracle inne arriver ek des fois mo alle divant la glace mo dimane moi “Kinne fek arriver la? Kuma sa inne arriver? Si sa pas ti arriver, mo tout sera fichu!!!”
Example: Monne deja gagne ene electric discharge 40,000 volts, 181 fois plus fort ki courant dans prise mural, mo ledents ti coller pendant 3 minutes tout. To capav explik moi kuma mo encore vivant? pas capav miracle sa. Sameme example banne situations kot monne dire: ” Ki couyonade??!”
To ena reponse pou sa? Miracle pas capav arrive 10 fois… depuis ki monne senti presence Dieu, monne peur li ek monne coummence respecter li…
Mais mo entierement daccord ek toi ki nous pas trouve li. Mais si nous pas trouve li, pas veut dire li pas la… lol
Ziste mo opinion sa, mo pas ler offence toi nanrien, ok?
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March 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Divana is not the only one… Me too I believe in God and I think that he has created everything.
Science cannot explain everything. Surtout pas l’existence de l’hommme. De la terre et j’en passe…
For me the Big Bang is the greatest hypocrisy of all times…just to explain the incompetency(or the helplessness) of scientist.
It is more difficult to explain the non-existence of god.
That’s my opinion just as you have your own.
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March 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
To Vicks:
beze sa, zotte p faire longaniste lo mo blog lol.
An interesting point vicks, kifer eski dimoune souffert otant if god really existed?
For example; dan lafrik kot ena extrement problemes et poverty. Zotte merite souffert otant? alors?
To Sweety:
I think that u have not been ‘forced’ perhaps because u live in a foreign country and perhaps this would change if u were living in Mauritius or India. But i believe that parents and the older generation should not force us, but giv us the choice.
To Tushal:
Loup Garou is another interesting topic, but a bit outdated lol.
a Zako called man? na, plitot twa sa lol, kidding, but i dont think we are still zakos, koz we have evoluted a lot,at least, a big majority of us…
To Kunal:
Twa? to croire dan bondier? en tout cas pas kant to ti morice dear, lol, tout sa zourer to ti p larguer la…
Canada ine change to la vie…peut etre tone arrete zourer aster then lol
To Josh:
We do respect everyone’s view of point (Copyright) and urs as well
When the time comes when we will feel the need to believe, perhaps we will believe…
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March 12th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
hmm nice debate goin on here!
personally i am a firm believer bt i do respect others who do not believe in god or religion!
“God is man’s best imagination and Man is God’s best creation”
so if 1 doesnt exist then the other is nt here either!! :S
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March 12th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
“Loup Garou is another interesting topic, but a bit outdated”
Outdated..aha..some few days back I was on a chat and some people were talking about loup garou in the village which is becoming more and more famous for its nonsenses like killing people pou faire banla gardien zot lakaze, seeing loup garou walking at nite,..i wonder whats next..seeing a plane moving on the main road?or a flying ship?or some aliens looking for sm1..always expect the unexpected from that famous village! ! !lol
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March 12th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
om shanti om !
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March 12th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Great article joh!
What’s even greater is that you respect those who believe the contrary of your beliefs!
Promissing wisdom!;-)
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March 12th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
ene sujet mari delicat sa… et mo trouve ene tas opinions divergents…
all i have to say is that I do believe in God & aussi i respect those who don’t… li ene choix personnel et pas capave force personne croir…
li pareil couma l’air… pena aukene preuve ki l’air exister… to pas trouve li… yet u breathe… u feel air… just like believing… u just know it’s there…
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March 12th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
lolzzz…pan lir tou…mai ine get a glimpse of it…vry interesting indeed ur point of view, but it all depends on pplz…its true, we mauritians, hav aws grown in blieving wat our parents tell us n so on…but each one of us has its own experience n belief in god varies accordingly…also ur belief increases by the ppl helping u…there r many things which make u blieve in god n so on, but there r otheres which don’t….it all depends on how u c things…the simplest example is i am rich, but y shud ppl b poor???god is so cruel…thats nt the point…its like, u need day to have night, n vice-versa…n wel there r so many other things to say…but one last word is its nt the culture which makes u blive in god, but ur faith simply…its nt carryin kawal or thinking to which type of ppl we r talking to or even eating non-veg wen supposed to eat veg that change the way to think if we blive in god…well anyways its a gr8 job u r doing Yashvin…keep it up…n well Happy Independence Day
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March 13th, 2008 at 12:09 am
I think everyone has a perfect self they wish to attain (if thats not the case, then people commit suicide). That perfect self is similar to the concept behind God, which is a mere representation of the perfect self.
However, religion is the agent that makes the concept behind God seem complicated, as this is how it gets to control people’s mind.
God’s concept is important for the survival of human kind, but on the other hand, religion is the thing we should think about putting aside.
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March 13th, 2008 at 6:39 am
To Nushreena:
I appreciated ur pharse:
“God is man’s best imagination and Man is God’s best creation”
To Tushal:
Still, loup garou is outdated, surement to p talk abt the bhojpuri song “Loup Garou” lol
To Avishna:
Oo-omm-mm-m Shant-ii-iii Om-mm-m-m-m! (remix version)
To Neel:
Nice to c u here again Izzyladdoo lol.
To Zai:
U score 1 point, but u do have ways to prove exisitence of air, like euh, light up a fire and see the flame changing direction on applying a small breeze of air ol.
To Soum:
thnks dear, another thing to note down is that, thousands of those carrying those kawals, know god only during those 3 days in a whole year, just to show off….
To Shaan:
Religion is indeed responsible for a lot of misunderstandings, sometimes being the root of loads of problems. If the god is the same everywhere, religion is that thing which makes it appear in thousand forms!
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March 13th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
well.. i’m not gonna answer abt the topic.. but instead, Yashvin, just answer this following ques: ‘ what is (are) the reason(s) of your existence in this universe? ‘
anyways, u should respect the belief of anyone.
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March 14th, 2008 at 6:37 am
hi there kavi!
well, reason for my existence?
let me gratte mo la tete….
c pour vivre mo lavie, amizer, apprane, travaille, live with my family members and then form my own family.
I think u mean that god has enought valid reasons for our existence? then, perhaps u can share some
weps, i do respect others, else, i wouldnt be answering any comments…
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March 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
i didnt say anything abt god previously. u took god’s name now.
now, wat is(are) the reason(s) of the existence of this universe itself?
how can u be so sure that the reasons u gave above r wat u r here to do? and y do u have to do, anyways ?
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March 14th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
to kavi:
how can i be sure?
lol, bein apart seki mone citer, reste the following : fime gandia, maltraite dimoune, kokin, etc etc
to sire tone al faire medicine or psycologie? lol
u mean that humans are on earth just to pray? to try to believe to the imaginary? to turn out into fool hoping that one day the wishes becomes true? turn coincidences into miracles of god?
btw kavi, mo pas ti koner to otant croyant
aller, dire mwa, wat are the answers to ur questions? am curious to know y do the universe exists and we humans?
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March 14th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
bon ki pu ecrire la.. ena pu dir bondieu sa bondieu lot,mo bien merd mw.zis kan ena exams lerla mo al OMMM
lol
en veriter mo pa croir lor bondieu mais mo un zenfan hinduism mo bzn croir.mo ti deja dir sa bhai(yashvin)
lanner dernier mne bien priyer bondieu mai dernier ler in ggn coup pied dan fesse.sa pa aid dimoune ditou,un belief bien kk sa.zis ena fois cpv couyone zenfan,nek dir banla fer bon zenfan sinon bondieu pu puni tw etc etc..
grrrr p ggn ner :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@
un msg pu tou dimoune “bondieu pena narien pu fer r nu la vie,kumien nu pu priyer,nu ena pu pays nu sins un jour”
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March 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
hmm btw yashvin i respect ur opinion of nt believng in god or religion.bt tel me 1 thng. do u truly thnk ki pna anythng as god!som1 superior ki la tou letan in gd n bad times.sm1 2 whom u can realy turn to when u r in trouble n u can realy trust apart frm humans jst like u!
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March 14th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
u r making assumptions and assumptions. never said humans r on earth only pray.. and dont jump onto implications.
:p
u havent answered my questions yet.
i wanna know ur reasonings behind ur curiousness.
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March 14th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
if u cant prove something that exist doesnt mean it doesnt exist. i’m not referring only to ‘god’.
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March 14th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
To Deepa:
sa appelle couzine, frekente mwa encore,to pu arrete couyoner par lezotte lol
to Nushreena:
Nops, i dont believe in that…
But, u mentioned something : “when u r in trouble”
I guess a lot of ppl from their experience told me “kant to pu dan problemes to meme to pu croire dan bondier”
God is something which ppl believe only when they face problems, or want to succeed in something in which they havent enought confidence to do.
Its something in your head, and ppl dont understand this. They believe that, since they are praying, they will succeed, simply because god listens to their prayers…
To Kavi:
well kavi, i wrote all that, from my life, what i do etc in my normal daily life…
If that wasnt supposed to be the reasons of our existence, well i dont know…
koz thats wat i do….and am still living strong….without feeling the need of ‘him’
thats true, u cant prove his absence, nor his existence….
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March 14th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
aller kavi, mone reply twa kestion la, aster toi dire mwa, wats the reason for the existence of the universe and we human beings???
i think its fair to giv us ur thinking na?
[lol, pas p truv twa lo msn si pu chat r twa :P]
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Well just to voice out my opinion.
I do agree in some ways and disagree in some or the other ways with both Yashvin and Kavi, as both of you can very well disagree with me. Anyway, we are here to discuss right? So let’s get back to ’serious’ business!;-)
For me, GOD is the voice behind all our deeds, the voice in us.
Let’s take the example of a law breaker. Saddam kills a man. He is therefore a ‘lawbreaker’ for our society which stated laws against such acts. He is a ’sinner’ according to our beliefs in God and specially religion. But why did he kill? Give a thought to his education, to his early age of youth. Maybe he had some kind of frustration. I guess that the main reason behind all these ’sinners’ is education. In Mauritius the real education(no university or academic matters) doesn’t exist. Some source on Human Values. You and I won’t kill because we can discriminate. That’s what we’ve been living in since years. But a ‘guetto individual’ won’t behave like we do, because of his ‘education’, his youth, his surroundings and several related factors. So surely it can/cannot be the act of God. Now you can understand the difference between a ’sinner’/'good human’ in our ‘law society’/'god democracy’; one point to realise whether God exists… or not.
Is it God who made the mistake by creating us or we made the mistake of creating God?
Like I said before, God is in you. Your aim, your deeds, your body, your mind, your heart, your faith, your trust and your will.
The sculptures are simple idols which were made by intelligently intelligent wisemen to make it easy for us to pray(pray = your own demands and their answers are within you). But we didn’t really follow the wisemen as we thought that these idols are God. Maybe we are right/wrong.
Have a day alone a ask yourself. ‘What do I want?’ Think well, ask your heart and you will get the answer. The real trick to success or to get answers remains nowhere than in YOU.
So for me, God exists because for me, God is in me… My heart… (God = one’s faith in oneself)Surely not the spiritual figures nor the idols. But I do pay my respect to them due to my ’self realisation’. (paying respect and praying are two different extremes.)
You can’t see God, you can’t feel God because it is air, water, YOU, anything. The word GOD is only a universal example. But as for it’s real meaning, it depends on several experiences of life and perspectives. But don’t misunderstand Religion and God.
(God = One) = (We = One) = (God = We)
Religion is pure man made and definitely a mistake. Racism etc etc…
Maybe karma exists. As for the cosmic forces(longaniste sipaki) they exist due to some universal cosmic forces(pyramid positions, mountains, air, fire, stars, north/south/east/west).
Reason: Our world was created due to some intelligent molecular frictions. So before achieving the Human figure, we all have lived through 8,000,000,000 different species (scientifically speaking). We all have in us some animal instincts. You may be faithfull… like a Dog. You maybe cruel(kill) like a beast(tiger). There are still some animal instincts that keep on dominating different humans in different ways.
(refering: a possible answer between a ’sinner’ and a ‘good human’)
Example of our principal perspective is our one sided view. We must surely not misunderstand a man with religious tattoos when he says that he ain’t religious. He IS right depending on his religious views.
Reading my article you may think that ‘God’ exists/doesn’t exist depending again on your perspectives and views.
God is You!
Read between the lines and you shall guess why I said so.
Our existence is proven (molecular friction etc).
BUT BUT BUT… As for the existence of these molecules… The HOW, the WHEN, the WHERE questions arise.
??????????????????????????????
Stunned? That’s a mistery.
(I still haven’t found the answer)
But our existence, God’s existence, the existence of our World and our Universe shall definitely remain a rhetorical question.
Maybe you would be wise enough to find out…;-)
(I couldn’t)
P.S: No science can answer such questions. Only real wisemen can do. Alchemist type!lol!
Btw, when I said ‘YOU’ I never refered to anybody.
Thanks for your question Yashvin.
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Bon, +3/4 opinions ki mone lir la, zt pa believ, doesnt mean zat, pena plis dimun ki believe…
but la religion/faith/god is not something debatable… akoz sa, pena buku lopinion pour. akoz those who believe, no zat its fruitless pu diskiter.[moi mo pane diskiter la hein]
its my humble opinion
btw, i realy believe in god
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
bon n ti zistoire pu fer toi truv la realiter..
akoz n ta p dir, sipa laguere parsi parla
n zur, n dimun ti kot n coifer…. dan dialog, coifer la dir kumsa, ki li pa croir in god.. misier la ask li kifer, li answer SAME AS ZOT ki si ti ena god, pa tipu ena mizer, laguere, ban mover truk la..
misier la in res trankil, kan lin fini, lin sorti
lor simin, li truv n dimun, extra mal razer, longue labarb, CV sipa ki kaliter desorde.
bon misier la p rent dan salon, li dir coifer la kumsa:
coifer toi to pa exister!!! coifer la etoner ask li b kuma sa, mo pane fek raz toi la????
misier la dir li, b guet sa dimun lor simin la, guet so CV ki kaliter..
lerla coifer la dir li, b mo laem moi, but fodre li vin kot moi lerla mo pu kv okip li
LERLA MISIER LA DIR LI, ZATS THE POINT.. FODRE KI TO AL ENVER GOD, PU KI GOD OKIP TOI, FER FAVOR LOR TOI
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I wrote an article but it didn’t appear.
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
finally, zis kan exams lerla ki to kone god
donc, god si pu show u ki salerla si to pa ti neceser pens li.. carry on alone as u always did
e lerla, bez par fes devan[i think i read zat somewer]
anyway… sory si mone ofens kiken
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March 14th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
i like ur reasoning kavi….. not many pple think this way.
rub some of ur wisdom on yashvin
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March 14th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
to Reehas:
wow, trop story, i liked it
however “finally, zis kan exams lerla ki to kone god”
sa zamais mone dire sa…
to Neel:
sorry, ur comment was so long that it automatically went into the spam :S
i have marked it as non-spam :), its back here!
to Kavi:
i guess that perhaps u r revising, good luck and thnks for spending some time here…am still waiting for YoUr answers…
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March 14th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
what is the origin of God?
or let me rephrase that.
Who created God?
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March 15th, 2008 at 12:15 am
To Kavi
Everyone constructs reality in their brain - something’s existence or non-existence is a product of our imagination.
Therefore, trying to justify the existence or non-existence of anything is simply trying to convince yourself it exists or does not exist.
Trying to justify the existence or non-existence of god to someone is simply trying to change a thought in their head.
Does that really make god exist or not exist? If you have time, try to figure this out instead.
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March 15th, 2008 at 7:11 am
For those who pray to God to get something in life (Exams, driving test, lottery, …) let me tell you, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT! GOD WILL NEVER GIVE IT TO YOU!
HOWEVER, if you do make your cheap asses work as they should, if YOU DO make the EFFORT, stop bullshitting and complaining, God WILL help you.
For all those selfish bastards who think that if God exists, He should grant ever shitty wishes “If he exists then I should be… I should have … I would be …” well too bad, you can keep on waiting. be my guest!
I never prayed to God. never asked Him anything because I know He wouldn’t give it to me but he would expect me to work for it and He would help me in the way!!!
Example: Today I am at a world-class university thanks to my efforts. God did not sit for my exams but how did he help me get into this University? huh?. He did what man and money couldn’t! I faced so many gaps that prevented me from entering this Univ. Well, God bridged those gaps! Saw his power? Could you do that?
You can’t deny the existence of God because of lame excuses such that “If he existed, then why… ?”
Everything happens for a reason. You might choose not to believe in Him thats absolutely fine.
Help yourself and God will help you!
Find out more on : http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html
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March 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am
God bisin ena ene gro database ein… pou manage tou sa dimounes lor la terre la… hmmm… Zot pa penC ene distributed system sa? Entre tou sa bane “Gods” dans different religions/cultures la? Zot partition database la ek sakene manage imP dimounes?
IMHO, God, as well as religion, is only something man-made… There is nothing like an absolute power or anything… It’s just something in people’s mind…
What you might have achieved thinking God is behind you , helping you, guiding your hand, etc., you might as well have done it without him or her or whatever… by just believing in you… Maybe some people do not have the self-confidence needed to succeed; that’s why they would rather take the easier path of just clinging to the Idea of having someone there omnipresent to help out in tough situations…
Well everyone got his/her very own opinion about the topic…
Something that is noticeable though, is that faith in God is diminishing with every new generation… With most of yesterday’s inexplicable events (that were hence attributed to God’s doings) being proved scientifically each day, young people find it more and more difficult to believe in the mighty sole being governing the universe (blah blah blah…) that they are hearing from their elders, etc… and are becoming more and more rational (IMHO, rightfully so)…
Maybe someday God will be fairy tale stuff!… lol… kidding… Who knows?!
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March 15th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Hi there,
I see the debate has reached maturity with opinions diverging…
The best comment till now is that of Kunal… You have said something that makes real sense… We should work towards our goals in order for GOD to help us in return…
We are not here for NOTHING! or out of NOTHING! Question your existence? Can anyone of you: Can you create the least small of creature on earth, for example a MOSQUITO? Can you? Or Can the Nature do this by itself?
I think, we should not be as selfish to the extent that we forget our own existence and be ‘ingrat’ towards Our creator….
I’ll also end on Kunal’s note: Help Yourself and GOD will Help YOU!
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March 15th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
no, I don’t believe in god. I think it’s okay that some people believe in god and some don’t. I would never try to convince another person that god doesn’t exist. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I hate it when people who believe in god try to convince me that god exists ,that I should believe in god..etc..
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March 15th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
tu cki contre ha lidE bizin kwar dan bondiE la vine dan mo lequipe :d
mw mo dir…god doesnt exist!!!!!!!!
dpwi l’enfance ine fer nu kwoir dan bondiE, c pour cela ki ena fois nu dir ‘ayo bondiE :p’ meme si nu pa mean li!!!!
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March 15th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
To tushal:
Who created god? For me its men…and women of course!
To Shaan:
i agree with wat u wrote
To Kunal:
Nice and referring to the following:
“For those who pray to God to get something in life (Exams, driving test, lottery, …) let me tell you, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT! GOD WILL NEVER GIVE IT TO YOU!”
Si vraiememe god ti pu give tout sa, azordi bane pandit, maraaz, maulana, pretres tout sa zotte tout ti pu BILLIONAIRE LOL!
Well, if u believe god bridged those gaps and helping you in doing things which u cant do yourself, i DO RESPECT ur opinion…
Do thank him on my part koz u form part of my good friends circle and am happy that u r happy there, meme si to faire glason rapper r la neige ki tomber lo to balcon, lol.
To others, this is not a joke, he did it!
To Yashvin2:
Hope u dont mind, i renamed ur ‘name’ to prevent any confusion here:P
lol, truver to en plein periode revision Distributed Systems, ofet li servi zis so la tete pu manage all that, sa meme parfois li blier certains millions de personnes lol.
“Something that is noticeable though, is that faith in God is diminishing with every new generation”
i agree with that too!
To Yumn:
Weps, Kunal did write something nice, but u dont know him 2 years back…
sa qualiter li ti p zourer la, in each of his sentence, bisin ena ene GROS zourer, meme towards god
“Can you create the least small of creature on earth, for example a MOSQUITO?” :
u score 1 point here, i agree that we cant create anything like that, yet…
but cloning does exist, perhaps another day, another topic…
please note : i agree i am referring to CLONE not CREATION…
To Aline:
“I would never try to convince another person that god doesn’t exist. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.”
I do appreciate that no one here is forcing the others to believe or forget “his” existence, we are only trying to give our opinions and ‘try to prove’ what we are saying.
To Varsha:
The team is already growing here on my blog, start by grouping all the names
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March 15th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
can you read and tel me your opinion about zis everyone:
http://nonaro.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/why-science-fails-to-explain-god/
What do you think about ze way he explain us zat there is something large, eternal and unknowable?(precision: i said ze way he args…)
ashvin, yash youuu yayyaaa lol are you sure zat i’m a believer?!!!
cela me semble trop facile de te donner la solution!!! pa di tt di tt marrant …zen boy creuse toi un peu les meninges et tu trouveras.(keep FAITH LOL..)
de plus je t’ai donné un indice: truth or dare!!!
bouuuuuuuuuuuuuu looooooooooooool
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March 15th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
to Divana:
may i add something?
U may be visiting this blog tens of times daily but u still havent realised that my name is not ashvin, but YASHVIN!
thnks for trying to look into the most noticeable mistakes next time…
now am going to read that page u gave above…
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March 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
still to Divana:
LOL!
“are you sure zat i’m a believer?!!!”
you are giving away comments that makes ppl believe that you are one by reading all these!
and u are asking me if am sure that u r a believer?
are u trying to make urself ashame?
successfully done!
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March 15th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Appologies accepted
u must have noticed i havent given my arguements on this subject…. to pa demander kifer??
well coz i have a question en retour, 95% dimounes lor sa la terre la blieve in a god (allah,Shiv, durga, vierge marie , muruga, Buddah etc). are the 95 % all living in disillusion? are the remaining 5% wrg in not believing? are the 95 % all mad pple who need a psy?? are the 5% all going to hell??
enfin after zot mort avoye 1 mail or comment lor Yash so blog to say wer u are n if ur quest to meet god has been realised! (huh mo arrete mo delires par la mem)
Good day (or night) ladies and gentlemen
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March 15th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
to Avishna:
hmm, am happy u r back dear
none of us said that the 95% are mad n need a psy, at least, we respect everyone’s opinion.
We simply have another way of thinking…
ah wi, to ena raison, bane seki gagne connection internet, pas blier send me a mail…
tan dire dan heaven connection wifi la top
et dan hell, ena sa wimax connection ki morice appelle No-Mad…:p
(t)keep in touch!
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March 15th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
we? kisanla form part of we?
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March 15th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
tout d’abord il y a MOI…
and more of them (believer or non-believer ) who say that they respect others belief, opinions…
That makes MOI + Others = We…
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March 15th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
to yashvin:
eh, mo pa p gagne letemps pu vine online lor msn or lire tous seki ena lor to blog..
a+
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March 15th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
hahahahaha hohohohohoh ohohohohohohohooooo
i think i like kavi with with direct response to u yash! li pa passe par 3 4 5 chimins to say wat he feels!
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March 15th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
(y)he is my friend after all, just like U ({)(})
and all of you here of course!!! :$
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March 15th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
lol debate is still on! i knw li pa pu ena 1 fin sa zafr la! :o|-)
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March 16th, 2008 at 1:31 am
HAHA… So funny this post.. just imagine how it would have been as a face-to-face open debate!!
Pou bzin al rode WWE Referee sa!!! 
1 thing I noticed is that the believer/nonbeliever who started by saying: I respect those who dont believe/believe… ended up bringing disrespectful arguments to affirm their say!! Sa em ki pli comik la enkor!
I will go about saying that its useless to give “proofs” of the Existence of God… Can u DRAW love? U cant… but still u feel love for X, Y, Z… Pa kav viv sans li, p al dan coma, p mort sans li bla bla … :p
Same as this.. u can’t SAY that God exists… as all this comes on feelings… U feel He’s here somewhere… then He is!! But u cant prove feelings.. u can’t force feelings on others… yr feelings cant be felt by others…
So… personally I think better not spend so much negative energy in maintaining that GOD EXISTS.. as they will be talked over easily… For example… if someone poor and his kids have only beef/porc left to eat to stay alive… wat will he do? Pray night and day to wait for God sending him food? See his kids die of hunger just because he is a believer? Eating the meat will make him go against his belief.. Are there exceptions in believing in God?” This is an Xtreme case yes.. but these are also questions of non-believers to which believers have mumbled answers.
I sincerely respect both believers and non-believers.. that’s why Im not arguing FOR any case.
M’enfin… I dnt think I went off-subject either, did I? Anyways,I wasnt asked YES or NO, but just to “Post a comment” which I did…
No offence.
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March 16th, 2008 at 4:20 am
LOL sa wai Yashvin, mo ena tendence zourrer ene tas… BTW to post la p vine meme longeure ek to village (Triolet…LOL)
Glacon raper ek la neige la vrai sa, ena God’s hand ladans… Si li pas ti fer la neige tomber, mo pas ti pou capav fer sorbet raper…
Ahaaaaaaa!!! to trouve so l’importance? Eski to capav fer la neige tomber toi ? :p
Btw2: mo tendence zourrer la, God pena anrien pou fer ladans, li dans mo DNA tout simplement…
:):):):):):):p:p
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March 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Yashvin, what do you think about those who call themselves atheists and have religious weddings?
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March 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
hello isee…
thnks for ur comments…
Instead of replying directly to ur question, i would take that with me as example.
See, i dont believe in god and all the stuff, but when am gonna get married one day, i will have to play the drama n follow the wedding rituals, JUST because its like that in the family-society.
Ya, despite not believing in it, am gonna do it, just like i “do/participate” in certain religious ceremonies (for example: for my grandparents death anniversary etc) JUST because of my respect towards them, koz i believe in them, they were real and are still real for me.
Even they, they knew i didnt believe in god, but for the love i have for them, i do it, exactly the same for wedding… For the respect and love…
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March 16th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
hi evry1,
sorry parko lire tou cki zot ine dir. 2 answer d question :’do u blieve in ‘god’?:(i’ll make it as short as possible) lets assume ‘god’ is d supreme being who created d universe, we ‘humans’ n all stuff. to do so it should b of a much more superior race than us humans. So i dnt fink d human mind is yet enough developped 2 correctly imagine n understd the existence of such a being
just chill out dudes
keep smiling
Wiccan
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March 17th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
i just want to say smthing….above all the religious stuff…its spirituality….which in fact brings a meaning to the life u al live…n again this is smthing debatable…but wats the use of holding a debate if it only brings about quesitons which no one can answer???wats the use of a debate if it brings nothing more than unanswerable kestions???well, if u ask the right person, ull hav the right answers…bt whos this right person???so ill just ask u evybody, blievers or not, listen to ur heart, the answer is there…
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March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
You prefer to believe in god or not..its up to u..
its never been a choice…really
just a feeling that somebody is there watching
all u have to do is listen
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March 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Well, If god does not exist, then what is the meaning of life ??
Is it simply to take birth, enjoy and die ?.. i don’t think so..
Science failed in the quest in answering this question, but God and the scriptures possess the answer for this. That’s why people believe in god…
Now one can say that how come there are so many gods?? if god is god, then there should only be one.. Well if you go deeply into ‘all’ the scriptures, you might understand that the existence of many god is simply a creation of people’s misinterpretation of these scriptures.
Furthermore, every darwinist out there, just want to point out that there is a major flaw in the theory of evolution that the ‘Law of thermodynamics’ shows… The law of thermodynamics is true and viable, which the theory of evolution is not.. its just a theory.. You can go to any search engine and type in ‘theory of evolution versus law of thermodynamics’ and you will get your answer..
Hence all of you who stopped believing in god, because of the supposedly theory of evolution, may reconsider their faith..
CHEERS ….
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March 18th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
The meaning of life > The reason why science cannot answer the meaning of life is simply because there is no such thing as the meaning of life. We construct that meaning in our brain. From the day we are born till the day we die, our brain collects information and depending on the way it processes them, we create different meanings for different things. Life does not boil down to one thing, but it is the sum total of a brain’s existence.
Life by itself, is nothing without the thought we give to it. We are in control of our thoughts, and if you understand that, you know there is no god. A thought process can be explained by science - how the brain works - but the thought itself is unique to information recorded in one’s brain. Science is good at explaining things that can be replicated, but the thoughts of each individual cannot be explained by science as no thoughts are identical. Why no thoughts are identical is simply because we are not robots.
To presume that the meaning of life can be boiled down to god and scriptures is just the easy way out - it is taking for granted that we all think in the same way - this very discussion proves no one can have identical thoughts.
If by going deep into scriptures you can realize that the existence of many gods is simply a human creation due to the misinterpretation of scriptures, then I suggest you look beyond scriptures, try to understand their framework, their use, their communication system etc… If you dig deep enough, and think beyond what you read in scriptures, if you decipher beyond th